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let's see, i believe if you get president obama, speaker boehner and majority leader reed in a deal, they can cut a deal to be good for the country to move us forward. the question is would we reward principle compromise like in the '90s. i don't know. >> that brings us back to the original question are you aiming for a primary or a general election? because it seem that is and i think governor romney is to some degree exhibit a of that. you have to play both sides and sometimes -- i think for latinos on it, they talked about the wall and the deportation. those things are hard to take back and that was reflected in the numbers we saw for latino voters. >> i said earlier tonight, much, much earlier. >> that was yesterday. >> i thought governor romney had lost the latino vote in the republican primary. that far ago and he never quite made it up. you know what the tragic part of it is? i think if mitt romney would have been elected, he would have been working to finding a solution. he didn't need to go there. didn't he need to see those things on the dream act? >> maybe the answer is ye
let's see, i believe if you get president obama, speaker boehner and majority leader reed in a deal, they can cut a deal to be good for the country to move us forward. the question is would we reward principle compromise like in the '90s. i don't know. >> that brings us back to the original question are you aiming for a primary or a general election? because it seem that is and i think governor romney is to some degree exhibit a of that. you have to play both sides and sometimes -- i...
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john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has already offered up their response. then later, a photo in the trayvon martin case has been released in color. we'll show it to you and a new heir to the british throne is on its way. it's a baby bonanza. that's ahead. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at capella.edu plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's heah concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older a
john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has already offered up their response. then later, a photo in the trayvon martin case has been released in color. we'll show it to you and a new heir to the british throne is on its way. it's a baby bonanza. that's ahead. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in...
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he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not talking about simpson -- erskine boelsz. i'm talking about the white house's response to it. >> let's get to that too. i think what erskine bowles is saying in his statement, that this letter from speaker boehner does not represent his theory, number one, but i think the line that the white house is having problems with, and i believe i found it in page two of the speaker's letter, i'll read it to you if i can. he says this, notably, the new revenue in the bowles plan, what he's calling the bowles plan would not be achieved through higher taxes, which we continue to oppose and will not agree to, in order to protect small businesses and our economy. ins
he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not talking about simpson -- erskine boelsz. i'm talking about the white...
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. >> you can see how he responds to john boehner, said this week, signaled that he's willing to accept maybe the government will collect some more revenue, but let's not raise tax rate. let's get rid of deduction and benefits of simplicity there and thinking about trying to get economic growth. i think if the president responds by saying let's do a bipartisan reform instead of demanding trillions in new tax revenue, then i think that would be a good thing. >> paul: one of the thing boehner, my sources are saying, they would like to do is to get the president extend the bush tax rates for another year to avoid an immediate blow to the economy and time to negotiate a larger tax reform and entitlement deal. if the president insists, said, look, i litigated taxes in the election, tax rates are going up right away and automatically are and i'm going to insist on that, then do you think we're back to the barricades? >> that's a sign that the first term was instructive and the des moines register was not, that he's going to stay to the left. he's also, he's facing another eform must challenge
. >> you can see how he responds to john boehner, said this week, signaled that he's willing to accept maybe the government will collect some more revenue, but let's not raise tax rate. let's get rid of deduction and benefits of simplicity there and thinking about trying to get economic growth. i think if the president responds by saying let's do a bipartisan reform instead of demanding trillions in new tax revenue, then i think that would be a good thing. >> paul: one of the thing...
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for boehner, that was a deal breaker. he wasn't going to get a damn dime more out of me, boehner told woodward. a critical juncture boehner didn't bother to return the president's phone calls. when they connected, the furious president was spewing coals. the president acknowledged he was angry, but also tells woodward, he had sympathy for boehner because he couldn't control extremists in the new tea party congress. you see how crazy these people are. >> i understand him, the people said. through woodward, the total breakdown of the talks reflected badly on everyone. it was clear no one was running washington. it was trouble for everyone, but especially for obama. >> woodward shows an almost complete lack of communications between republicans in the white house. when republicans won the house in 2010, the president wanted to call john boehner to congratulate him, and nobody in the white house had his phone number. >> thanks so much, john. on monday, you'll hear more of the incredible drama unveiled by bob woodward, our ful
for boehner, that was a deal breaker. he wasn't going to get a damn dime more out of me, boehner told woodward. a critical juncture boehner didn't bother to return the president's phone calls. when they connected, the furious president was spewing coals. the president acknowledged he was angry, but also tells woodward, he had sympathy for boehner because he couldn't control extremists in the new tea party congress. you see how crazy these people are. >> i understand him, the people said....
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speaker boehner's office -- >> dan, i'm going to interrupt you because house speaker boehner is answering questions. >> the president is calling for 1$1.3 trillion in revenue and only willing to put $850 billion worth of cuts over ten years. >> reporter: what type of effect has the tragedy in connecticut had on the fiscal cliff talks? is there a realization that the country, the last thing they want to see is a long drawn out battle during this time? >> i think both sides would agree to that. this is a difficult time for americans. that is why we continue to have conversations with the white house. i continue to have hope that we can reach an agreement. it's not a time to put americans through more stress. >> reporter: what would plan b mean for the other big issues that would cause a fiscal cliff? the sequestration and the cuts that would happen automatically? unemployment benefits going away? would you incorporate any of that into this plan b legislation? >> we are going to continue to look at how we would address those issues. as we put this bill together we expect to be on the floor l
speaker boehner's office -- >> dan, i'm going to interrupt you because house speaker boehner is answering questions. >> the president is calling for 1$1.3 trillion in revenue and only willing to put $850 billion worth of cuts over ten years. >> reporter: what type of effect has the tragedy in connecticut had on the fiscal cliff talks? is there a realization that the country, the last thing they want to see is a long drawn out battle during this time? >> i think both...
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listen to what john boehner said about being reasonable. some rhetoric that's very con silltory. >> we talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> reporter: now the important thing that speaker boehner said, soledad, was that increased revenue would be on the table. so that's the thing to tell you that there may be some middle ground. of course, the devil is in the details. the idea here, though, is that if a framework could be worked on, you may see deductions close, tax credits go away. some deductions, some loopholes closed. and, you know, a lot of people -- even if they're in that top income bracket where they're supposed to be paying 35% or that's the maximum they would pay, some of them effectively are not paying that. they still could be paying more in tax dollars. that could create more revenue. yet the tax rate itself could not go up. com
listen to what john boehner said about being reasonable. some rhetoric that's very con silltory. >> we talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> reporter: now the important thing that speaker boehner said, soledad, was that increased revenue would be on the table. so that's the thing to...
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this is a chained cpi is something speaker boehner and the republicans demanded. everybody says let's avoid going over the fiscal cliff. this is one of the demands that the republicans have made. i don't like it. don't think the president prefers it. i know he doesn't. but everyone is trying to find a way to get to it except our republican colleagues. even after the president put this on the table, they decided to walk away with plan "b." >> the republicans say they may have a vote on plan "b" on thursday. it would raise taxes for those making $1 million and above. what does this mean? >> this is another effort by speaker boehner to minimize the impact on high-income earners, plan "b" would give millionaires a $24,000 tax break, relative to what the president is proposing now at $400,000. another way to provide benefits and relief to very high-income individuals, and by leaving the cuts in place, it would mean that working americans, our kids' education, programs for nutrition, for moms and kids, would take a big hit, even as they continue to protect the tax break
this is a chained cpi is something speaker boehner and the republicans demanded. everybody says let's avoid going over the fiscal cliff. this is one of the demands that the republicans have made. i don't like it. don't think the president prefers it. i know he doesn't. but everyone is trying to find a way to get to it except our republican colleagues. even after the president put this on the table, they decided to walk away with plan "b." >> the republicans say they may have a...
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boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> so is 37 the magic number in this fiscal cliff debate? "outfront," two men who know taxes very well. douglas holtz-ekin, president of the american action forum and robert reich from the university of california
boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible....
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they're going to have to work. >> john boehner is a dealmaker. he did say in his statement about common ground. mitch mcconnell is, the question is how much is he going to use the filibuster. it was abused over the last four years. does that continue in a second obama administration? >> and how much john boehner and mitch mcconnell -- >> can i read something donald trump -- have you been following him? you should follow him. he's out of his mind. >> i can't. >> briefly. >> it's like somebody attacked him, except it's not. >> he is completely over the edge. i got to read some of these. he says this, the house of representatives shouldn't give anything to obama unless he terminates obama care. electoral college is a disaster for democracy. this election is a total sham and a travesty. we are not a democracy. let's fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice. the world is laughing at us. then he called for a march on washington. >> the world is actually laughing at him. >> he can't march anywhere. >> -- million dollars -- >> world r
they're going to have to work. >> john boehner is a dealmaker. he did say in his statement about common ground. mitch mcconnell is, the question is how much is he going to use the filibuster. it was abused over the last four years. does that continue in a second obama administration? >> and how much john boehner and mitch mcconnell -- >> can i read something donald trump -- have you been following him? you should follow him. he's out of his mind. >> i can't. >>...
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we need a more positive outlook to solve our problems. >> he says, though, speaker boehner, that the american people want solutions and then went on to talk about how republicans were re-elected to the house and that's an indication that they have as much of a mandate as president obama has, which reads to me as stalemate yet again. >> let me tell you why a stalemate is impossible. the cliff. dose december 31st. this was the worst outcome we could dream up. we voted for it. democrats and republicans voted for t why? so the super committee would do its work, but it failed. now we need something more than the super committee. we need to have democrats and republicans in the house and senate working with the president to avoid the cliff, reduce the deficit, cut spending and raise revenue so we can get our fiscal house in order. >> this is months and months of conversation. lay out the vision of what that looks like which, by the way, would be something that both sides agree to. what does it look like? >> simpson bowles. that's what it looks like. 11 of us, of the 18, voted for it, inclu
we need a more positive outlook to solve our problems. >> he says, though, speaker boehner, that the american people want solutions and then went on to talk about how republicans were re-elected to the house and that's an indication that they have as much of a mandate as president obama has, which reads to me as stalemate yet again. >> let me tell you why a stalemate is impossible. the cliff. dose december 31st. this was the worst outcome we could dream up. we voted for it....
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speaker boehner's latest proposal called for the tax hikes to kick in at $1 million. cnn's dan lothian is in washington with the latest on this. dan, it really does look like there is some movement. >> it does. this movement came during a meeting the president had with speaker john boehner yesterday at the white house. that meeting lasted for 45 minutes. it was the third time they had met in the past eight days. you're right, it is pretty dramatic because the president for years now had been holding steadfast to that $250,000 threshold, saying that the bush era tax cuts would extend for them but not those households making more than that. now he raises it to $400,000. so that is seen as a major breakthrough. but republicans, while encouraged by these latest developments, also say that the math really doesn't add up. that the president's proposal leans more heavily towards new taxes. now, as part of that proposal that the president has cut put out there, he's calling for $1.2 trillion in new revenue, $1.22 trillion in spending cuts.but republican aides, again, saying t
speaker boehner's latest proposal called for the tax hikes to kick in at $1 million. cnn's dan lothian is in washington with the latest on this. dan, it really does look like there is some movement. >> it does. this movement came during a meeting the president had with speaker john boehner yesterday at the white house. that meeting lasted for 45 minutes. it was the third time they had met in the past eight days. you're right, it is pretty dramatic because the president for years now had...
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>>bret: speaker boehner, with only republicans, the plan "b" vote, that is what that was. this is different. it who is democrats, as well. the question is, will the speaker fiscal year he gets to the point where a majority of his majority does not support the legislation that comes over from the senate, assuming it is through the senate, now, if it comes over to the house of representatives and conservatives in house caucus, a majoriy of them, do not support it, does he, then, still bring it to the floor and pass it with a majority of democratic votes? that is something that he has not beening to do and he talked about that last year, and it is the hastert rule, the majority of the majority, something that speaker said he would stick to. >> a final question, could the house of representatives, or would the house is decided to vote if there were no spending cuts on the table if the sequestration was involved? >>bret: that is the biggest sticking point. i do. now the republicans are saying they want to have that fight on the other side. they want to have that fight with the
>>bret: speaker boehner, with only republicans, the plan "b" vote, that is what that was. this is different. it who is democrats, as well. the question is, will the speaker fiscal year he gets to the point where a majority of his majority does not support the legislation that comes over from the senate, assuming it is through the senate, now, if it comes over to the house of representatives and conservatives in house caucus, a majoriy of them, do not support it, does he, then,...
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john boehner needs to decide how he will get his caucus together. they're becoming increasingly isolated in their position. hopefully we can have a deal which protects the middle class. there is a piece of legislation sitting in the house today that would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of the american people. 97% of small businesses. they should go ahead and move that. and then we can have a broader discussion of how we achieve larger deficit reduction and avoid the fiscal cliff. but there's plenty of room and plenty of time for compromise. the president's position is clear. we're not going to do anything that hurts the middle class. we are going to protect those tax cuts for the middle class and for deficit reduction it needs to be fair and it needs to be balanced. everybody needs to pay their share so we can invest in the things we need to grow. >> i'm not sure about the plenty of time. 27 days. >> right. we are -- out of time. every day that goes by. >> stephanie cutter this morning -- >> every day that goes by, you can see more and more supp
john boehner needs to decide how he will get his caucus together. they're becoming increasingly isolated in their position. hopefully we can have a deal which protects the middle class. there is a piece of legislation sitting in the house today that would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of the american people. 97% of small businesses. they should go ahead and move that. and then we can have a broader discussion of how we achieve larger deficit reduction and avoid the fiscal cliff. but...
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i think that boehner will tend to ignore the tea party members. i think whoever is the democratic leader will probably ignore the kind of move on dot-org members. >> greta: you know what, tell me you what really annoy meas. everybody has known about the fiscal cliff for a year and-a-half. in november last year, we knew it was going to happen. now we have had the election, we paid their salaries while they ran for office on both sides of the aisle. they have six weeks to come up with a deal. it is want much time. on the edge of six weeks coming up, what happens? we need everybody to get in the same room. president needs to call the major leader and the speaker. what does the president do? he plans an overseas trip into burma, instead of staying home and bringing everybody to the oval office and pounding out an agreement? >> what the president has to do is to propose a budget, propose a plan. he didn't do it in the debt limit fight. he let one emerge from the negotiations. i don't think that's a presidential leadership. he needs to submit a program
i think that boehner will tend to ignore the tea party members. i think whoever is the democratic leader will probably ignore the kind of move on dot-org members. >> greta: you know what, tell me you what really annoy meas. everybody has known about the fiscal cliff for a year and-a-half. in november last year, we knew it was going to happen. now we have had the election, we paid their salaries while they ran for office on both sides of the aisle. they have six weeks to come up with a...
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i think, john boehner was right. he gave that press conference today and said, you know, people like me, it is true, i talked to congressman and they like boehner and the problem is they don't respect him enough to listen to him and they don't fear him and it is sad if you think about it. there is a structural problem that i think is sort of implicit here. the conservative base doesn't trust the republican leadership, and therefore the republican leadership is never given the leverage to compromise, and therefore the american public sees republicans as sort of stubborn and horrible p.r., but imagine being john boehner, the son of a bar keeper, a bar owner, and you want to be speaker of the house your entire career and like sam rayburn and tip o'neill and have all of that power and then you become the speaker and your own team doesn't even pass the bill that you want to pass. it has to be horrible for them. >> i heard criticism from republican members maybe they have could played it better. even after he made the deci
i think, john boehner was right. he gave that press conference today and said, you know, people like me, it is true, i talked to congressman and they like boehner and the problem is they don't respect him enough to listen to him and they don't fear him and it is sad if you think about it. there is a structural problem that i think is sort of implicit here. the conservative base doesn't trust the republican leadership, and therefore the republican leadership is never given the leverage to...
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speaker boehner has shown real leadership here. the president, all he has proposed so far is his old budget, which failed in the senate 97-0. not even any democrats have voted for what the president has proposed. >> how is it not a tax increase, though? to me at the end of the day if you're paying more in taxes, that's a tax increase. isn't this ultimately republicans are voting for a tax increase, even if it's for the 1%? some people, as you know, have signed the pledge that says that they won't increase taxes and some other things. so how is that not a tax increase? >> as you know, if nothing is passed, soledad, taxes go up on everyone on january 1st. the so-called bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year. so all americans are looking at their taxes going up on january 1st. and what the house and plan b is doing is saying, no, we want to permanently extend the lower rates for 99% of americans. otherwise everybody's taxes go up and people will feel those immediately, because withholding is going to go up in their first paychec
speaker boehner has shown real leadership here. the president, all he has proposed so far is his old budget, which failed in the senate 97-0. not even any democrats have voted for what the president has proposed. >> how is it not a tax increase, though? to me at the end of the day if you're paying more in taxes, that's a tax increase. isn't this ultimately republicans are voting for a tax increase, even if it's for the 1%? some people, as you know, have signed the pledge that says that...
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but just imagine being john boehner. son of a barkeeper, a bar owner, you want to be speaker of the house your entire career, you want to be like sam rayburn, tip o'neill, have all that power. then you become the speaker and your own team doesn't even pass the bill that you want to pass. it's got to be horrible for him. >> i heard criticism from republican members that maybe they could have played it better. even after he made the decision to pass plan "b," there wasn't a lot of outreach to say, what can we do, what are your concerns? there were conservative republicans who wanted some amendments to be voted on the floor, they were told no, you're not getting these amendments. this is the way it is, you follow me. and that wasn't the kind of way that tom delay, back last time republicans had a majority, when they wanted to win a vote, they would start $, two weeks out, what do we need to do? working with every member. if you're there late at night on votes, delay's serving you pizza. also he had harder measures to win ov
but just imagine being john boehner. son of a barkeeper, a bar owner, you want to be speaker of the house your entire career, you want to be like sam rayburn, tip o'neill, have all that power. then you become the speaker and your own team doesn't even pass the bill that you want to pass. it's got to be horrible for him. >> i heard criticism from republican members that maybe they could have played it better. even after he made the decision to pass plan "b," there wasn't a lot of...
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the staff of both the white house and house republicans are in touch, but speaker boehner said about his sunday conversation with president obama that it was cordial, and then he said about his tuesday conversation with the president that it was deliberate and frank. so you -- it doesn't take too much to read between the lines there to show you that things are not going that well. they have exchanged another set of counteroffers to no avail, and still at this point there is this impasse over tax rates. the white house, president obama saying that the income tax rate for earnings over a quarter million dollars must go up. republicans saying no and accusing the president of not being specific about spending cuts and entitlement reforms, reform medicare, medicaid and social security. >> so let me ask you a question about this report that we're hearing that the obama administration might be looking at a republican to succeed the defense secretary, leon panetta. who is on that list at this point? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. this is former nebraska senator chuck hagel, a republican. s
the staff of both the white house and house republicans are in touch, but speaker boehner said about his sunday conversation with president obama that it was cordial, and then he said about his tuesday conversation with the president that it was deliberate and frank. so you -- it doesn't take too much to read between the lines there to show you that things are not going that well. they have exchanged another set of counteroffers to no avail, and still at this point there is this impasse over...
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speaker boehner confirmed the vote. listen. >> brian terry's family has a right to know what happened. the american people have a right to know what happened. and we're going to proceed. we have given them ample opportunity to comply. even as late as yesterday. >> brian terry is the border patrol agent killed by a group of bandits with guns traced back to fast and furious. a final attempt of officials to negotiate with house republicans failed on tuesday and now a group of house democrats are planning a walkout to boycott the vote. democratic congressman cleaver is the chairman of the congressional black caucus leading the charge on the democratic walkout. good morning, sir. nice to see you as always. tell me more about this walkout. how many folks are expecting to walkout? just the congressional black caucus or more? >> there are a number of us that believe it should be some group, some person or some members who simply back away from this silliness. we don't want history to record that we participated in something tha
speaker boehner confirmed the vote. listen. >> brian terry's family has a right to know what happened. the american people have a right to know what happened. and we're going to proceed. we have given them ample opportunity to comply. even as late as yesterday. >> brian terry is the border patrol agent killed by a group of bandits with guns traced back to fast and furious. a final attempt of officials to negotiate with house republicans failed on tuesday and now a group of house...
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. >> outfront next, john boehner says the sprt slow walking to the edge of the fiscal cliff. but the house speaker did give us one flash of hope if you listen to his words very carefully. the u.s. is updating its military plans against syria as new intelligence shows assad's regime is loading sarin gas into bombs. and president obama's pot problem. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm tom foreman in for erin burnett. outfront tonight, the magic number after a whole week of harsh words here in washington and threats to, did house speaker john boehner hint ever so slightly at a compromise today that could finally edge us away from the dreaded fiscal cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there
. >> outfront next, john boehner says the sprt slow walking to the edge of the fiscal cliff. but the house speaker did give us one flash of hope if you listen to his words very carefully. the u.s. is updating its military plans against syria as new intelligence shows assad's regime is loading sarin gas into bombs. and president obama's pot problem. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm tom foreman in for erin burnett. outfront tonight, the magic number after a whole week of...
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conciliatory. >> andrea: boehner did -- boehner has taken heat. in his defense he has taken a ton of flak on this. he has given a terrible hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he can't pass anything, any tax cut for everyone under $1 million. kimberly, that wouldn't even pass the senate. >> juan: allow me to introduce a little sanity to this forum. >> andrea: yes, juan. >> juan: say it's incredit to believe me he would say they're far apart. they're not far apart. boehner wants $1 trillion to new revenue. closing loopholes or deduction or whatever. obama is $1.2 trillion. that is not far apart. in terms of cut, boehner said one for one. $1 trillion in terms of the spending cuts. obama is 1.3 more on boehner -- let me finish. obama has stimulus spending built in. they are not far apart. [ overtalk ] >> eric: boehner can get $1 million and below -- just dance is because -- listen, you can't blame that on democrats. republicans would not come in -- >> andrea: how dare they d
conciliatory. >> andrea: boehner did -- boehner has taken heat. in his defense he has taken a ton of flak on this. he has given a terrible hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he can't pass anything, any tax cut for everyone under $1 million. kimberly, that wouldn't even pass the senate. >> juan: allow me to introduce a little sanity to this forum. >> andrea: yes, juan. >> juan: say it's...
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you said you were supportive of john boehner's plan b a week ago. which would have raised taxes on people earning above $1 million, only on that amount that was above $1 million. but there are a whole bunch of your own colleagues that wouldn't let that pass. 50 republicans wouldn't vote for that. how is that somebody else's problem? >> democrats can't have it both ways one of the reasons many of my colleagues didn't want to vote on it, harry reid said he wouldn't bring it up for consideration. the democrats can't have it both ways. can't criticize the speaker for not passing the bill. tame saying the president wouldn't veto it. it probably won't pass. the reality is we did pass the bill. on august 1st. done in a bipartisan way, done plenty of time in advance and now it is up for the senate to actually act. that's the way it works. remember that? i'm just a bill on capitol hill? we pass a bill, it goes to the senate, they have to do their job. they went golfing last week, went on vacation and now not convening until 11:00. >> i am not hearing anythin
you said you were supportive of john boehner's plan b a week ago. which would have raised taxes on people earning above $1 million, only on that amount that was above $1 million. but there are a whole bunch of your own colleagues that wouldn't let that pass. 50 republicans wouldn't vote for that. how is that somebody else's problem? >> democrats can't have it both ways one of the reasons many of my colleagues didn't want to vote on it, harry reid said he wouldn't bring it up for...
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so john boehner trying to simplify things. he's asking top democrats and republica republicans to step aside so he can negotiate with the president one-on-one. it seems to be a request that everyone was able to live with. brianna keilar is live for us at the white house. if this is the case that everybody has been cleared out of the room, does that surprise you? it seems to make sense to me. >> reporter: it's not surprising at all. this is what observers of this process thought would happen all along. ultimately this was a process that would come down to president obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and make sure everyone is on board. this comes on the heels of what has really been radio silence between the white house and house repu
so john boehner trying to simplify things. he's asking top democrats and republica republicans to step aside so he can negotiate with the president one-on-one. it seems to be a request that everyone was able to live with. brianna keilar is live for us at the white house. if this is the case that everybody has been cleared out of the room, does that surprise you? it seems to make sense to me. >> reporter: it's not surprising at all. this is what observers of this process thought would...
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listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president has talked about tax reform, his acceptance speech. i don't expect him to get into details of how he'll do that. the key is the tone as andrew was saying, people confidence is very important here, es special lir to the markets, the economy, the president to come out and say we won here's the mandate you take this, take our conditions or you'll bear it on your head if a recession happens, that i think is not what the markets want to see. >> and andrew ross sorkin, as we wait for the president to walk in, what -- we see now is that the gang of eight have been meeting. you've had bob corker and others participat
listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president...
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president obama presented a new proposal to house speaker john boehner. tax rates going up on incomes of people higher than $400,000. this is a change. previously he wanted taxes higher on households at $250,000. he's offering new spending cuts said to be worth about $200 billion and for his part instead of no new taxes where the speaker had been for a long time speaker john boehner is calling for tax hikes on people making more than $1 million. he has a big day today meeting with house republican members to update them on negotiations that could be a little bit of a difficult meeting for him. let's go to washington to get an update on the talks. cnn's dan lothian is there. >> reporter: hello. you're right, this could be a difficult meeting for speaker john boehner as he tries to sell this proposal to house republicans. this is a dramatic turn of events because president obama as you pointed out had been digging in his heels saying there could not be a deal unless taxes went up for house holds making more than $250,000 and now the president raising that t
president obama presented a new proposal to house speaker john boehner. tax rates going up on incomes of people higher than $400,000. this is a change. previously he wanted taxes higher on households at $250,000. he's offering new spending cuts said to be worth about $200 billion and for his part instead of no new taxes where the speaker had been for a long time speaker john boehner is calling for tax hikes on people making more than $1 million. he has a big day today meeting with house...
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john boehner won't get his way. they lost the election. the election was partly over this issue of raising taxes on wealthy and having a more the president wasn't at all vague or secretive about this. he has a clear mandate about that. my only other point is there are other things like sensible tax reform, closing loopholes, where there really is common ground and they should be able to come to some agreement. >> let us hope so. you don't agree with ari? >> you don't think there's any common ground? >> go ahead. >> i think it's pretty clearf you look at everyeye agenda rep obstructed, denied votes entirely, or opposed it when there were votes. i think that's across the board the problem with the message we got yesterday from the republican leaders is, we're now looking at the apex of time for graciousness and cooperation, right? there's no time in american history when it's more expected -- >> absolutely. >> -- than the night of the re-election of the president of the united states -- >> what did you get from john boehner? >> 300-plus elec
john boehner won't get his way. they lost the election. the election was partly over this issue of raising taxes on wealthy and having a more the president wasn't at all vague or secretive about this. he has a clear mandate about that. my only other point is there are other things like sensible tax reform, closing loopholes, where there really is common ground and they should be able to come to some agreement. >> let us hope so. you don't agree with ari? >> you don't think there's...
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can boehner think, look, i've got as much mandate as the president? >> i think he should absolutely think that, paul. the president made clear, didn't really run on the second term agenda and didn't talk about it much. i'll tell you what the mandate is right now, the mandate is that fiscal cliff, the bipartisan mandate. >> paul: to go off it is the mandate or not to go off. >> i think the stock market went off in the last week, people are saying pretty clearly you've got to do something about this now. i think they have a lot of leverage here, because if something isn't done, the economy is going to decline, maybe go into recession and i think employment can get as high as 10%. >> paul: if we had another recession it would have. >> if you're the president of the united states in a second term, you do not want a legacy, unemployment-- >> the lesson, don't give in at all, you won and if you go off a cliff, you blame them and they'll get the blame. >> he has no other term. i think obama's going to start thinking about his legacy and i predict he may thro
can boehner think, look, i've got as much mandate as the president? >> i think he should absolutely think that, paul. the president made clear, didn't really run on the second term agenda and didn't talk about it much. i'll tell you what the mandate is right now, the mandate is that fiscal cliff, the bipartisan mandate. >> paul: to go off it is the mandate or not to go off. >> i think the stock market went off in the last week, people are saying pretty clearly you've got to do...
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the president and the house speaker john boehner finally spoke yesterday by phone. they have both agreed to keep the details of the discussion under wraps. they're both standing firm on the tax hike, their positions on the tax hikes for the top 2%. listen. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate balduan is in washington, d.c., this morning. so that's kind of a depressing thing, when just the advent of a phone conversation between the two top dealmakers is the headline, isn't it? >> i could not agree with you more. the fact that they spoke, but the fact that there's no progress, and that's a headline. i mean, if we want to take anything from it, any significance, it's the first time they've talked in a week. take that what you will. it's almost like hope springs eternal, but we are a long way from a deal still. neither side, as you said is giving on their basic position. president obama conti
the president and the house speaker john boehner finally spoke yesterday by phone. they have both agreed to keep the details of the discussion under wraps. they're both standing firm on the tax hike, their positions on the tax hikes for the top 2%. listen. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate...
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the white house saying that boehner counteroffer is nothing new, that it lacks specifics. but i will tell you, zoraida, that one house democratic aid telling cnn that it passed the laugh test. so certainly i guess it could have been worse in some estimations by democrats. >> i suspect some people were laughing. brianna keilar live at the white house for us, thank you. in the next half hour, we'll talk about the prospect for a fiscal cliff deal with california's democratic congressman xavier becerra. >>> the rain and flooding are relentless in northern california. four storms in less than a week left at least one death now attributed to those storms. and more rain is expected today. let's get right to meteorologist rob marciano. he is following it all from the cnn weather center in atlanta. good morning. >> good morning, zoraida. this is the worst stretch of storms that northern california has seen really in about two years. another punch today then we'll set up for a dry trend. the good news is that it has been dry so the ground, even though we've seen a lot of major flood
the white house saying that boehner counteroffer is nothing new, that it lacks specifics. but i will tell you, zoraida, that one house democratic aid telling cnn that it passed the laugh test. so certainly i guess it could have been worse in some estimations by democrats. >> i suspect some people were laughing. brianna keilar live at the white house for us, thank you. in the next half hour, we'll talk about the prospect for a fiscal cliff deal with california's democratic congressman...
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john boehner's plan "b" has imploded. house republicans didn't even get to vote on it because there wasn't enough support. the whole thing was called off. the house went on recess for the holidays. here is what the speaker said "the house did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass. now it is up to the president to work with senator reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff." let's get to debbie wasserman schultz. great to have you with us. >> thank you, soledad. great to be here. >> let's start with reaction to what happened last night? >> well, you know, it's frustrating, behalfing, we've been at the negotiating table for weeks. president obama has moved in a mountainous direction toward the republican position, saying, no, we're not going to go with $250,000 in terms of raising the tax rates, we'll go with $400,000, $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and last night, even on the spending cuts plan of speaker boehner's plan "b," he was only able to pass it wit
john boehner's plan "b" has imploded. house republicans didn't even get to vote on it because there wasn't enough support. the whole thing was called off. the house went on recess for the holidays. here is what the speaker said "the house did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass. now it is up to the president to work with senator reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff." let's get to debbie wasserman...
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raising it requires an act of congress which republicans strongly oppose this one day after boehner had opposed higher tax rates for those making less than $1 million. president obama wants to raise taxes for those making more than $250,000. all eyes remain on whether lawmakers can seal a deal. many economists, including the fed chief ben bernanke, says that this could pull the nation back into recession. >> that would be awful. >>> still ahead on our special edition of "starting point" from newtown, connecticut there, are some who say if a teacher had been armed inside the elementary school, maybe this tragedy could have been prevented, that is what many gun advocates has been suggesting. we'll talk to john lott, who think that current gun laws shouldn't be strengthened, they should be tossed out. >>> plus, she died trying to protect her first grade students. we'll hear from victoria soto's family, that up next on "starting point." [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyq
raising it requires an act of congress which republicans strongly oppose this one day after boehner had opposed higher tax rates for those making less than $1 million. president obama wants to raise taxes for those making more than $250,000. all eyes remain on whether lawmakers can seal a deal. many economists, including the fed chief ben bernanke, says that this could pull the nation back into recession. >> that would be awful. >>> still ahead on our special edition of...
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john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because -- well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> they took it and threw it in the garbage. >> that's jay ferrell as president obama. he is so good at this. candy crowley actually thought that was president obama. >> he is so good at his delivery. >>> let's talk about our documentary that aired last night. fifth installment of the "black in america" series. we asked the question who is black in america? it unravels the complicated, densely packed issue of racial identity in in country. here is a clip. you must have been told, well, you're not really black like 100 million zillion times. >> you know, i love that conversation. >> you do? you love that conversation. why? i hate that conversation. >> it is fascinating to me. it is fascinating. >> so what do you check when you have to fill out a form, like a census? >> i say black now. but as l
john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because -- well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> they took it and threw it in the garbage. >> that's jay ferrell as president obama. he is so good at this. candy crowley actually thought that was president obama. >> he is so good at his delivery. >>> let's talk about our...